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All the Way” on Broadway.) The aptness of this pairing did not escape Mr. Obama, who said he credited President Johnson’s civil rights laws for “ultimately leading to the election of representatives who look like me.”Photo. The president gave Mr. Cranston, who portrays Lyndon B. Johnson in an HBO movie, a tour of a garden on the White House grounds. Credit. Damon Winter/The New York Times But unlike the president in Mr. Cranston’s film, who has just ascended to the position after the assassination of President Kennedy and is only beginning to make his mark on the office, Mr.

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Obama, 5. 4, is in the homestretch of his second term and clearly thinking about his legacy. This interview took place on April 2. White House Correspondents’ Association dinner (which Mr. Cranston attended), ending his speech with the words “Obama out” and a dramatic mike drop. Mr. Obama invited us to take off our jackets and get comfortable; he was already in shirt sleeves. He offered cookies and drinks, or to “whip something up.” And for the next hour, the pair spoke not only of how politics (and the country) have changed since the days of Mr. Johnson’s Great Society, but also about the tonic of solid family lives after turbulent youths, the generational shift ushered in by the Obama presidency and how the digital age has made this president, in his words, “probably the most recorded, filmed and photographed person in history.”Philip Galanes: Mr.

President, I have to tell you: Right now I’m sweating. Does it bum you out to be the guy who stresses out most people he meets? Barack Obama: Actually, I’m very easygoing. The office is stressful for people.

When you work here, you lose that sense of awe on a day- to- day basis, but you recover it through somebody else’s eyes — through visitors or friends who come for the first time. But if I’m walking home late at night, down the Colonnade, there’s a majesty you never lose. This is the same walk Kennedy took, that F. D. R. wheeled himself down. PG: Is it a nice change, Bryan, being the second- most- famous person in the room? Bryan Cranston: I love it! When I set out to be an actor, I just wanted to tell stories.

The fact that great fortune came and allowed me to become famous is almost a distraction from what I wanted to do. When I meet people now, they only want to talk about me.

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I get bored with that. I want to find out what you’re doing, but the dynamic shifts the other way. BO: It’s one of the downsides of any celebrity. People have an idea of who you are. So some of the spontaneity you had before, making change in a coffee shop or striking up a conversation, disappears.

But those moments are precious, and the loss of anonymity turns out to be more profound than you realized. The saving grace for Michelle and me is that we didn’t become famous until later in life. I wasn’t a national figure until I was 4. I had a full life of wheeling the grocery cart with my daughter in the front. BC: And that probably gave you more maturity to handle the experience. BO: I remember the day after I gave my speech at the [2. Watch Greetings Online Full Movie. Democratic] convention in Boston, the one that catapulted me to national prominence.

I was talking to a friend who was reacting to the craziness, and I said, “I’m no smarter today than I was two days ago.” It makes you wonder about kids — 1. Now, these are high- class problems, and I’m always careful to say that being able to do what you love is an incredible privilege. BC: How did you feel about your girls being put in that position? BO: It was probably our biggest worry before we came here. And it’s testimony entirely to Michelle and my mother- in- law [Marian Robinson, who moved into the White House with the Obama family in 2. I give credit to the press for sticking with an unspoken rule not to follow them around and give them space to grow. They’re pretty much able to do anything their friends do.

In some ways, it was part of our decision for me to run when I did because we thought it would be easier for them when they were younger. It would be a great challenge to land here as a teenager under a spotlight. PG: This reminds me of your after- school life as a kid: cartoons and sitcom reruns, homework before dinner, then fighting for the TV remote all night. The president was just like me and every kid I knew — the first to have that wall- to- wall engagement with pop culture. Photo. The digital age, the president said, has made him “probably the most recorded, filmed and photographed person in history.”Credit. Damon Winter/The New York Times BO: That’s interesting. Watch Buccaneer Bunny Online Buccaneer Bunny Full Movie Online here. BC: Sounds familiar to me, too.

But I had a challenging childhood that was touched by alcoholism and a need to grow up quicker than most kids do. PG: Which brings me to an interesting commonality: All three of us grew up without fathers. Mine drifted into depression and suicide. Bryan’s was absent for 1. Were you looking for dads everywhere, like me? BC: Not consciously. When you’re a kid, you deal with circumstances the way they are.

I did want to be a policeman, early on. That’s a very masculine role model, and I followed that path for a while.

I had an aptitude for it. But as every young man should, I decided to go into acting because the girls were much prettier in acting class. But I’ve come to see that parents are always teaching you.

In the best case, it’s how to behave. What I try to do in my life now is show our daughter a loving relationship with her mother. But sometimes, and largely with my parents, they teach you what not to do: “I’m not going down that road; it’s a dead end.” So I veered off in other directions and, of course, made mistakes going that way as well.

BO: There’s a wonderful quote that I thought was L. B. J.’s, but I could never verify it: “Every man is either trying to live up to his father’s expectations or make up for his father’s mistakes.” I spent a lot of time trying to figure out, in the absence of an immediate role model, what it meant to be a man — or in my case, a black man or a man of mixed race in this society. But as Bryan said, there’s no checklist. It’s only later you realize the things you may have done in search of that absent father.

PG: I bet it’s had a big effect on how you both raised your daughters. BO: There was a powerful sense that I wanted to get this right. Not that I was going to be perfect, but that I was going to be there, and engage, and try to figure this out. Now I had the benefit of a great relationship with my mom, and she taught me the essential elements of parenting: unconditional love and explaining your values to your kids, having high expectations. And Michelle comes from a very close family. BC: As did my wife.

BO: I always think part of the attraction for me, other than her great legs and being smart as a whip, was the stability she had with her tightknit family. Being grounded and in one place for her entire childhood. And I think part of the attraction for her was that I was this exotic guy, who had done a whole bunch of stuff. BC: My wife, Robin, was from a stable family, too. There was something so attractive about that.

I thought, “This is what I want.” It’s still choppy waters raising kids, but I could never conceive of not being there.